Varavon threw up a nice little Instagram photo the other day showing off a few items that will qualify for their [ONE DAY ONLY] Black Friday Sale.
On the list is another price drop on the
$2379 Birdycam2 3-Axis Gimbal Stabilizer bringing it to just $1699. A couple of PRO Armor Cages for the Panasonic GH4 and Sony A7s drop down to just $200 dollars also. The 'PRO' version includes the top handle, and adjustable ENG GRIP with leather hand strap.
The deals look great, but they are only available for ONE DAY and in very limited quantities. The Birdycam for $1699 (4 units only), T7412 for $99 (20 units only), GH4 Cage Pro for $200 (5 units only), A7s Cage Pro for $200 (5 units only)
To find out more about these products, check out the website.
Varavon Black Friday Deals Birdycam2 Gimbal Armor Pro Cage
I don't know where else to turn to, so I hope someone can help me out here.
I'm a one-man-show and I bought this back in December when it was on sale. I didn't have time to use it till yesterday.
I followed all the instructions (and video by cheesyman) and everything seems to be balanced. With the motor off, the camera is balanced in the center (I have a canon 7d with a tamaron 10-24mm lens) including the yaw. It will stay whenever I point it to.
When I power it on, it also well balanced. On Position #2 it works perfectly. Position #1 & 3 do not.
Position 3: If I move a little to the right, the camera goes to the extremely right side and stays there struggling and cannot go back to the center. At one time it tried to do a back flip! (And this is with very little movement on my part)
Position 1: sometimes it goes too left and just stays there and never returns to center until I shut off the unit.
What position are you guys using? Shall I just forget position 1 & 3? (#3 is nice to have!!)
I emailed support but no answer just yet.
Anyone can help please??
@Cristian Rusu - I purchase mine from eBay. I just look for 32 bit Dual IMU boards that run the Alexmos firmware or sometimes referred to as 32 Bit Basecam boards. Also check the version number of the board so you know it's recent and you can upgrade the firmware to the latest when it arrives. I will have a parts list when I have a final design.
where do you get your controllers from?
@Naim M - It does not come with a remote for dual operator, but you can add one. Once you do add a remote, then you can mount it to a jib and control it remotely. Both questions I would talk to Varavon about and they should be able to help you.
Emm - I feel bad that I missed the deal but still going for this. I have two questions:
1. Does it come with remove for two operator mode?
2. Anyway to mount it on the jib and perform remote pan & tilt?
@Jorge - I still need to make a few changes to the frame. Once that is done then I will see how much the shop will make it and sell it for if people want to order it. The holidays are keeping us all busy but hopefully in December it will be finalized.
It is settled then. I just saw the prototype of the gimbal you are helping design. Emm, please take my money. Seriously, I'm a very handy DIYer. Just sell me the frame at a healthy profit and give me the parts list with links. Please, take my money.
Also, if you ever need stock footage from the caribbean (I live in Puerto Rico) for one of your projects I can do it for free for you because you are just that awesome. Your blog has helped me inmensely and I'd like to give back. I have FPV Phantom with a Hero 3+ and a BMPCC if you ever need any shots.
@Jorge - A vest is not going to help you especially because you're not working with enough weight. The springs on the vest arms require a certain 'minimum' weight to work, and your setup is just way too light.
I have one of the Xcam Sabre stabilizers and have not been able to get satisfactory shots with it. It is well constructed and I can balance my camera quickly well without problems, but it I just can't use my "guiding" hand without transferring my steps to the camera and ruining the shot. I get decent shots using it one handed only, but then it is a matter of luck since I can barely guide where the camera is pointing. Also using only one hand the gimbal is basically indoor-only since the slightest wind will move the camera. I've played with different drop times, adding more weight (since I fly a BMPCC with the Panny 12-35/ f2.8), placing my guiding hand at different locations... Nothing helps much. My question is the following: Before looking at all these expensive electronic gimbals, should I first purchase the Weildy vest with double arm? I ask because my problem is caused by my walking steps, and the springs in the double arm are there to eliminate this motion. Everywhere I read people talk about vests to prevent fatigue, but my concern is not fatigue, I'm thinking of a vest exclusively to help me to stabilize the camera from my up and down walking. (And no, I don't walk normally, I try to roll on my steps, walk slowly and try my damnedest hardest to not transfer my movements onto the camera.) Now on the other hand the electronic gimbals are used without vests and spring arms, and I don't see any up/down movement from walking. Why is that? I would expect that the walking steps would be visible on electronic gimbals too. I'm trying to decide if I should spend $400 on a Weildy vest with double arm to try to salvage Xcam stabilizer; OR, see how much I can get for the Xcam on eBay and eventually get an electronic gimbal. Any input on these questions would be highly appreciated. Thanks everyone.
Thanks for the info Emm!
Thanks for the heads up! I grabbed one of the gimbals while they were still on sale. I currently have a Ghost Stabilizer V1 and it's nice but pretty finicky. It's difficult to balance with tools, has the old atmos chip, and I've never been able to get it properly balanced with a quick release plate. I believe they've resolved most of these issues in V2 of the Ghost but for the price I don't mind switching systems. Hopefully I can unload the Ghost on ebay or CL.
@VanWeddings - It boots up pretty quick, so I typically shut down between takes. That will last you many many hours, but if you like to leave it on all the time non-stop you probably want to get an extra battery. Note: I believe the new Birdycam2 gimbals are on 12V battery power, so you may be able to adapt something.
Got in for one of these. What's the battery life for this gimbal, wondering if I need to get an extra
@Paul - I know they are high priced, but at some point I feel people will own several gimbals just like owning several cameras. Sometimes you don't need the biggest and baddest, and so you would carry with you a smaller setup. Bring the smaller cam, smaller tripod, and smaller stabilizer. With the size difference of many cameras I just don't think there will be a one size fits all solution. Just have to go with what you will use the most, and add a second or third one later.
Thanks Emm I'll look into that. I'm still new to the gimbal world. Your comments vs a ronin match my thoughts. I'd love to fly a c100 or my new sony FS7, but it's too damn heavy. Now that DSLR bodies like the A7S can give you a C300 or better image quality, with few compromises, I figured that's the perfect camera to fly. Given its easy to put a shogun recorder on for 4k makes it even more of a no brainier.
Still no substitute for a proper steadicam for perfect shots (steps from walking still show a little on all the motorized gimbals), but it's amazing what you can get out of them.
I work with C300s and the C100 and now the FS7 and the best bang for buck for weight is definitely an A7S (or GH4) on a smaller gimbal like this. And while the movi m5 Is the premium product, it is almost twice as expensive. For something that frankly isn't even as well built as this varavon.
@Agno - I get that question quite a bit, and it all boils down to the end user. First of all if you shoot with a Canon C100 sized camera or BlackMagic Cinema 2.7K /4K camera, RED Epic, then the Birdycam just won't work. You have to go with a different gimbal.
So far i've heard many stories of people shooting with a GH4 or Sony a7s and who bought a Ronin and think it's way overkill. The gimbal is HUGE when you put such a small camera on it, and you're forced to carry the weight and travel with the bulk.
Don't get me wrong, the Ronin is an awesome product, is built and and performs better than a more expensive FreeFly MOVI. To this day I still don't own a Ronin, I just borrow if I need. I prefer to focus more on tools that allow me to travel light, travel small, and move fast so I would prefer the smaller systems.
The Birdycam2 is a high quality CNC machined system and has already proven itself amongst many shooters. Do a search on Vimeo or check out the Varavon blog. It can work well so long as you know it's limitations and what cameras it can work best with. Compared to the Ronin it's about half the weight and with the handles folds down to half the size. I don't know what type of work you do or what type of camera setups you shoot with, so it's hard to say what will work better for you.
Emm, The deal on this is great. I wanted to know what's are your recommendations between this and the DJI Ronin. Obviously price, but they're kinda around the same now that the Ronin is on sale. What are your thoughts on the two and how they compare?
I'd like to hear some feedback from some of you end users, on how well the Birdycam 2 balances, what kind of cameras, and lens's your using and whats the performance like, how long are the batteries lasting. What don't you like about it also. Please!
@Paul - They are using the Basecam Control Board. There is a section of pins available to add your typical RC remote. Then in the software you enable the feature and set your parameters. Very easy to add on. Look on other webpages about adding rc remote to basecam, it's pretty much plug and play.
I'd love to know how Emm I didn't think that was possible. Thank you!
There are still gimbals left at cheap price as of 12:25 PST
@Ty - Yes you can. I may do a tutorial at some point.
Does anyone know if it's possible to set up the birdycam2 for 2-man operation with remote control of the pan/tilt on a dedicated controller? I know some basic control is possible through the Bluetooth via the app, but what about an r/c style controller like DJI and Freefly offer?
Beauty of cage is it has an arca Swiss dovetail thst will work with my Kessler Kwik QR plates
The problem is that they are charging 152 on tax plus 120 on shipping. In the end it goes to $1971.
i actualy got birdycam original price off b&h so i can finance (bill me later) ;_;
but im getting the extra battery now !!
not too sure of cage because i need room for quick release !!
I got right in there for one of the cages and an extra battery. I got the gimbal delivered last week (unfortunately) but I bought it at $2000.It's an amazing deal at $1700. I'm impressed with the quality.