Just talking about Canon's latest Compact Prime Cine Lenses, it's not for everyone. Fortunately Rokinon is well aware of the DSLR Video scene and is adding another Cine lens to it's product line and i'm feeling the new Rokinon 35mm T/1.5 Cine lens is going to be a winner. The available Rokinon 8mm T/3.8 Cine Lens didn't really take off since it was more of a specialty type wide angle fisheye look.
The new 35mm Cine Lens will have a lens gear built around the housing, and de-clicked manual aperture ring to adjust exposure on the fly. First lenses will come in Canon, Nikon, and Sony mounts, but as one wise commenter mentioned you could just go for the Nikon version (since it's a manual lens) and find simple adapter to fit just about everything else.
[Update] Rokinon will also be announcing a new 14mm T/3.1 & 24mm T/1.5 Cine Lens. At this time, only the 8mm T/3.5 Fisheye is already available, and 35mm T/3.1 has been just been released for pre-order, but you'll be able to check out the entire Rokinon Cine Lens collection over at B&H (Click Here).
Rokinon 35mm T/1.5 Cine Lens
@Hussein Dawood - Yes, Rokinon has Cine lenses available for Nikon (here).
hi, is there any lenses for Nikon D800e body ?
the 35mm looks really nice for its price!!!
To those who are wondering about the 85mm as a cine lens. The official Samyang/Rokinon Face Book site was asked this question and responded by saying they are working on the 85mm cine version and it will be out soon.
I also read another blog post where the individual says he contacted them and was told it was expected to be released during the end of September.
Hope that helps those that are interested because I surely am.
I just noticed B&H recently made the 21mm and the 14mm available for pre order...
Why is the 24mm $200 more than the 35mm that is also T/1.5, and why is the 14mm is only T/3.1 but it's only $50 cheaper than the 35mm. That is odd I thought they were all going to be T/1.5 and be fairly evenly priced.
Having the 14 2.8 the 35 1.4 and the 85 1.4 for canon I would def recommend the samyangs.
however I'm at this moment testing the D800 with a samyang 35 1.4 nikon mount, and I have to say that altho they look exactly the same, the feel of the focus and the fact that it communicates with the camera makes the nikon mount a better choice..
I own the non-cine versions of the 14, 24, 35, and 85 and love them all. Bought them all for about the price of one Canon L prime. Very sharp, very nice focus throw, great for cine. There are problems using them for still photography (they get dark when you close the f/stop, no auto focus, etc) but they are great just for cine. I find them as sharp or sometimes sharper than the similar Canon L lenses that I own and rent. I'll sell them and then upgrade to these cine versions as soon as they all come out.
Yet another thing that I first heard about here on this website that has made a big difference in my video productions. So, a big thank you to Emm - again.
T stops are use for exposure, not depth of field, a T stop is the actual amount of light transmitted through the lens, an f stop is a mathematical relation between the iris opening and focal length.
Use f stops for depth of field tables.
Use t stops for setting exposure, very critical exposure.
As a practical matter it's always within 1/3 of a stop, so how accurate do you really set your lenses?
@kicap - T1.5 is basically F1.4 with a little bit of light loss due to the optics, so the max aperture size is the same for the two versions.
@Your'Z - Thanks, i'm aware of the new lenses and hopefully should have them all in as soon as they release.
@EMM : Check this out :
So, is it safe to say that T/1.5 is approximately equal to f/1.4? Just curious because none of the website definition really helps in comparing it to f-stop. Most of it simply says T-stop is a better number than f-stop.
Thats it Im going to upgrade my lens kit to Samyang cine lens over time. First the 35, then the 85 and then the 24. If only they would make a 50mm but to compete with the prices of other 50mm im not sure it will happen.
When light goes through a lens, the light dims slightly which differs from lens to lens. So even if two lenses have same aperture set up, the image can be different. T stop, on the other hand, is the calculation of the light going through a lens, so when using T stop, you don't have to worry about the light.
I really wish they'd make plans to release the 85mm in cine or a new 135mm but I feel like its going to be a while
Being that this lens is just $50 more than the original 35mm from Rokinon, do you know if there are any differences between the two other than the lens gear, and de-clicked aperture?
Oh, oh, I know that one. Adapters lead to light loss when they have glass --to achieve infinity focus-- as in the Canon FD to EF (or EOS) lenses. But a lot of adapters don't have glass at all. That's why, paradoxically enough, a lot of people prefer old manual Nikon lenses over Canon FD lenses to use with EOS Canon cameras without light loss. And that's why an old manual Nikon lens, used on Ebay, is generally 25-30% more expensive over a Canon FD lens of similar focal length and f/stop.
Don't adapters lead to light loss?
and... is this lens full frame?
@cliff - For video, probably the Rokinon. For photos, the Sigma offers auto focus.
So does this lens update include an enhanced cine type focus throw? Any idea on lens breathing characteristics?
So, what this lens f stop actually is? Nevertheless, I have ordered one from B&Hphoto upon reading this post!! haahahaaha..
if you were using a t2i (which i will be using for the next year) which would you rather have this or a sigma 30 1/4?
@getem they are releasing a 24mm T1.5 in Sept
@peederj - Not in this situation, but sometimes the other Rokinon lenses are cheaper in Nikon mounts than in Canon mounts. The Canon's are more popular and they don't discount them as much.
Only reason to buy Nikon mount would be it's more common to have adapters for Nikon mount right now. However, metabones and others have cracked Canon's code and the prices of Canon EF adpaters should descend rapidly over the next couple years. If you are already all set for Canon EF mount, I can see no reason to have to add the cost of the adapter to the purchase.
It's obviously a personal thing, but I've found my Pentax FA35/2 to be a great focal length on a GH1.
It's unfortunate they don't seem to be releasing this in K mount as I'd be seriously tempted by it.
I have Canon and GH1/GH2 cameras. Any reason I should get the Nikon mount that I don't see?
@Scottrellwi - Hmm.. to simplify things, a 24-105mm set at F/4 could be slightly darker or brighter than a 24-70mm F/2.8 that's been set to F/4 (example). You would have to adjust the lighting on your subject if to stay consistent with your shots. The T stop rates light transmission so you can interchange those different lenses without having to change your lighting setup to stay consistent.
Amazing, only thing is I need a 24mm lens from them cine at this price and it would be bought on sight.
Using 35mm on a gh2 is not a focal length I like. On gh2 I use 50mm and a 24-28mm for normal viewing.
35mm is to close to 50mm and not helpful for me on GH2. They need to make a 24mm of this lens.
Can you explain this "T" rating a little more? How would it compare to f-stop?
@allen - Just in case others are reading, the T/1.5 is not to be confused with F-stop. The T is a rating for light transmission, but T/1.5 for under $600 bucks is still a good deal.
This is really a 1.5 for under 600 dollars?
@Jason H - I can already tell from the 8mm to the 35mm, most likely not.
Are they all going to have their gear rings located in the same exact locations like a properly coordinated set of CP2's?
@Derek - The standard Rokinon 35mm has been a great lens for me (besides being a bit soft at it's widest aperture). The benefit is that the manual lens has a smoother focus for video use, and now the Cine lens with lens gear is a convenience, and the de-clicked aperture run is another bonus for video shooters.
Depending on the image and build quality, I may have to sell my Sigma f1.4 30mm for one of these.