Even the cheapest ProAim mattebox runs you well over $280 (including shipping), so this new single filter MatteBox complete with side flags for half price + free shipping is a much better option than the recent cheap plastic version (found here) that holds NO filters.
The shallow hood looks like it can accommodate wide lens setups, but no information on if the filter can be rotated (for polarizers or grads). Not the best of the best, but I know some of you were excited about the $70 dollar version matte boxes for pure aesthetics, so I suggest you at least hold out and get something like this. Not only uses more metal in construction (except hood), it looks much better, and also serves a better purpose by holding a filter (like ND). New mattebox can be found on eBay (click here).
[Update] Prices starting to move upwards since this post. [Update again] Seems like they dropped pricing back down hearing complaints.
Inexpensive Single Filter MatteBox with Full Flags
Emm
Post author@yves - The metal donut looks like it can hold up to around 90mm (lens thread). The different sized rings are foam to help cover more of the lens. You just slide the camera lens through the different sized foam donuts, and the Mattebox is held in place through a rail set.
yves
For those of you that got this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Filmcity-Matte-Box-Canon-5D-MK-II-7D-GH1-Rebel-T2i-/370536669765?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5645b4e245#ht_1961wt_1124
Did it come with donut rings? If not, how do you attach the lens to the mattebox?
Derek
Sounds promising. What is the weight like? I'd heard very bad things about Proaim's Matte boxes before. I wonder if this is a new design to address those issues. I was planning on saving for a Trusmt but maybe I'll bite on this.
Eddy Bee
@James
Thanks for the reply, James - that's very helpful info.
James
@Eddy Bee
There aren't any shoe mounts on mine, but the top handle is removable. There are 7 1/4'' screw holes along the cage. I jumped around with it yesterday, shaking and swinging it probably more dangerously than I should have, with the full weight of my T2i, Tamron lens, rig and matte box hanging below and it felt nothing but sturdy.
Eddy Bee
@James
Thanks for posting info about the matte box and cage. I have a couple of questions about the cage... Does it have any shoe mounts? Is the handle removable? Can the small holes along the cage be used to mount accessories with a 1/4" screw?
Many thanks.
James
@Weelian
Just got mine in the mail today (6 days from day of purchase to arrival at my door, FYI). Aesthetically, I can't see any difference between this unit and the unit pictured EXCEPT that there are 2 4x4 filter trays and the filters CAN be rotated. Everything looks solid, including the camera cage that came with it. I can't wait to try this out.
Happy to answer any more questions, and again, thanks Emm for the heads up on these units.
Emm
Post author@andrew - Looks good. They dropped the price back down, so it's still the cheapest Matte to accept a filter and mount on Rods. I'm waiting for mine to come in.
andrew
@EMM
I think I found the front of this mysterious mattebox! The link is from one of their combo package ebay listings.
Weelian
@brandon
It is different from the one originally listed above. The mattebox listed by James appears to have 2 filter trays instead of 1 and it cannot be attached to the camera lens thread using a ring adapter, unlike the original mattebox. It also appears to me that it cannot be rotated.
The Mattebox is essentially a Century Optics Sunshade clone(https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/376587-REG/Century_Precision_Optics_0VS_SS05_00_VS_SS05_00_4x4_Sunshade_Filter_Holder.html) with French Flags and a rail mount attached to it.
brandon
Does anybody know anything about James's link? Looks like it's a different mattebox altogether. Anybody have info on it?
Emm
Post author@Tim - Nice. I guess they heard the complaints...
Tim
Back to $142?
James
@Emm - The package contents state that 9inch camera cage is included. That's pretty much all I was after, along with the matte box. Thanks for the heads up, though.
Raby
They have increased the price.
Emm
Post author@James - The auction states that nothing is included. It's basically the same MatteBox just showing images of how it can be used.
Emm
Post author@Tim - I believe it's the same MatteBox, just comes with rails. I'm not sure about the quality of rails. I have Gini and Express35.com stuff which is great.
Emm
Post author@Colby - I just got the MatteBox. I have rails to mount already.
Colby
Hey Emm Which one did you get? just the matte box, matte box w/ camera cage or the one with the rod support? do you think you need the one with the bigger rod support?
earl
I was thinking of getting this but now at 170 i'm going to pass...I understand supply and demand as much as the next person but this ebay crud is just to annoying. I don't like feeling like i'm taking advantage of as a consumer, but the best part is, I don't have to buy it if I don't want to. perfectly happy with my $68 dollar one. if it comes back down to its org price maybe i'll buy it then.
Tim
Will this item work with dslrs: Matte Box with 15mm Rod Support for XL1, XL2, HVX200 (second item when using the link)
At $245 for the rails and the matte box it seems like a reasonable price.
James
[Update]
I don't know what the situation is here, but I found this: (https://www.ebay.com/itm/370536943902?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1436wt_981
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$175 for the matte box, rails connector, and cage, top handle... super secret listing from the same company. I ordered one and when I did it listed that there were only 2 available, FYI.
James
Curse you all!
Just kidding... I knew this would happen... oh well... still curious about the cage handle individual pricing, though
HD-tography
Sickening! It's not worth that much... Under $150 shipped... MAYBE, but beyond that price point you are starting to get closer to dual filter holders, rotating filters, swing away mounts, etc.
Emm
Post author@Polish Dan - Not sure how that happened, but all the prices just went up. Many have sold in the last few days.
Polish Dan
I pressed buy it now at $142 and before i pressed commit to buy it says $170???? What gives???
Weelian
Proaim, DVcity and FilmCity are all from the same North India company. They do make some very good and competitively priced products. I'm very satisfied with their Flycam Nano and sliders they have. Some of their designs are obviously lifted from the more famous brands.
I own their Proaim Kit-20(C) Shoulder DSLR kit which comes with rotating filter holders and very similar flags shown by the mattebox above. The mattebox above has the exact same rail support as mine. The Mattebox itself is a slightly modified and cloned version of Century Optics VS-SS05-00 sunshade (which I have and is excellent!) The filter holder does NOT rotate, though you can rotate the entire mattebox if you attach it using a filter step down adapter Ring (https://www.dvcity.com/dvshop/37mm-43mm-52mm-58mm-62mm-72mm-77mm-82mm-Adapter-ring-for-Jumbo-matte-box.html. The metal screw knob on the lower right enables the quick release of the adapter. Given an option I prefer using the step down adapter for attaching to the lens. The rail support is quite dismal as the entire mattebox is supported with one tiny hex nut and bolt. The result is when you move around, the entire mattebox, heavy with a glass filter (4x4" size) will vibrate and the flag corners will hit each other and cause an annoying rattle. This can be over come by gaffer tapping the side flag corners.
The filter holder can be adjusted at various heights just like the Century Optics version.
eiker_ir
it looks like a modified version of this one right here: https://www.thecinecity.com/eshop/product.php?productid=187
with added side flags and rod support. I actually bought the one i just linked and should get it in a couple of weeks, seems like a pretty decent basic matte box.
John
Looks like an updated version of the ProAim MB-100 (https://www.thecinecity.com/eshop/product.php?productid=187&cat=26&page=1)
They show pictures of the front. Can't imagine it being any different than this one.
Paul
What do you imagine the filter holder size is? Think it holds Cokin "P" filters?
HD-tography
@Emm
Hey thanks for the tip! I may just try that! Any chance of a tutorial using the brake caliper epoxy style paint when you try it?
@Amused Observer
Well here's the thing, Red and Black has become something of a foundation when purchasing gear due to OUR company branding and logo seen in the field, so from a business standpoint it makes sense to stick with it, and the increasing BLUE "trend" of (recent) DSLR gear being manufactured (especially the affordable/innovative China/India stuff) clashes greatly with OUR color scheme! It's just getting VERY frustrating... sorry to vent on this board.
brandon
why are there no pictures of the front? would be nice to see what it looks like from that side.
Emm
Post author@HD-tography - Actually the blue knobs was the first thing I was looking to replace (or repaint). I'd rather have things all black, so I may do some painting myself. I'm looking to use something more durable and self leveling like this: https://motors.shop.ebay.com/hubcaps_plus/m.html?_nkw=epoxy+paint&_sacat=&_odkw=&_osacat=0&bkBtn=&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1313
Amused Observer
@ HD-topography - Am I wrong, or are you really into color coordination ... ?
HD-tography
I'm fairly certain the filter doesn't rotate, doesn't appear that type of design anyways...
WTF is with all the gear these days using BLUE screws? I am so sick of it as all my gear is Red and Black, because I have a pile of Gini rigs and other Red/Black equipment...
Either I need to find a dealer to sell red anodized replacement screws or these companies need to start making options to pick red or black screws instead...
THAT'S IT I'VE HAD IT! I'm not buying ANYTHING more that uses BLUE... it's bad enough I have to paint over the blue pointer and knob with metallic red model paint for the RJ FF that came in last week, which BTW at least had a removable shiny blue rubber insert for the BLUE FF knob (only stuck on with double sided tape, which in now appropriately black with it removed)
Any ideas for red replacement screws Emm?
Emm
Post author@Tony Maceo - This one should be good. This is most likely a new smaller version of the Proaim (rebranded). I should have one of these soon. It's currently the cheapest MatteBox that does not use the Lens thread to mount, and comes with FIlter holder. Definitely much better than the RJ Matte which I mentioned wasn't very good.
Ben
I hate it when they never show the front of the matte box. Makes you wonder what they're trying to hide.
Dave C
For a shoulder rig, look on ebay at Ginirigs, and bid low, like $300
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. It's available with aluminum wings for less.
I found a matte box with carbon fiber wings, two rotatable filter holders, and it swings away for lens changes. $385 from Trusmt2011
Jeremy mayhew
Can't tell if this will handle a 77mm lens?
Tony Maceo
I'm taking caution, after the W96 upgrade led light fiasco. It behooves everyone to wait for Emm to get one for review. Otherwise, I think India and China listens to the diy-types like us and it just shows the buying power we all have as a collective at influencing updated products, design changes, and affordability. Let's use our niche market strength to our advantage and wisely refrain from pouncing on these products as soon as they become available, but let a review or two come through before. I know Emm is not fond of an official CSOA, but we find his and all those who "take one for the team" invaluable to our gear and accessories acquisitions. Excuse my grammatical errors, its been a long day. =)
James
Consider my interest piqued. On the one hand I could jump at this right now and run the risk of it being junk, or I could wait, and potentially deal with the rise in price that comes from a CheesyCam referral.
Have you gotten hands on this one Emm?
Also, I'm curious how much extra it would cost for them to include the 6inch cage w/ handle to add to my gini rig.
getem
Wow your rig looks great! Any idea where I can find those sets of rails?
Thanks
Mickey Jones
Hmmmm, out of India and I seem to recognize that rail mount as a ProAim design. I'm thinking this may be from the same company.
Bruce Philpott
Thanks, Emm!
@getem: I use Emm's recommended Cowboy Studio shoulder rig. I modified it with a rail/handle system. In turn, I changed the front rail on that system to 18". I added a Liliput field monitor (which I saw here), a d|focus follow focus, and I was good to go!
One unusual detail: I taped a line level on the front rail: https://brucephilpott.com/photos/images/bruce-shooting-square.jpg
getem
Looks good, all I need is a cheap shoulder rig now